So, if all the primers that would normally be be available for reloaders are being diverted for factory ammo, where is all the the factory ammo!?!? Recap: primer manufacturers are Federal, CCI, Winchester, Remington, S&B & soon to be Lone Star. Thanks Ryan for update, I feel your grief as I am in the tire business and they are shortages there also, parts for cars, lumber,etc I think the whole country is scared and rightfully so! My last purchase of 5,000 CCI small pistol primers was in March 2020. Minuteman. Something is amiss here.. Im one that saw all this coming and stocked up early,my prediction I see soon the housing market will have a glut of for closures ,building supplies will be the next shortages. Not sure if you noticed but we do have W209 shotshell primers in stock at this time. It will be the right man! Bidens policy on assault weapons is to register them. The ATF. No coercion necessary, all they have to do is sell theirs cheaper than the start-up, and they put them out of business. Primer. We dont normally get ETAs. To God be the Glory!! thank you for the incite of what is going on in the reloading problem (primers) , this is a year to remember . Good luck to us all, were going to need it. Certainly President Biden has never been Anti-2nd Amendment, stated as such, or taken a position that he was opposed to the 2nd. Keep the guns, they may be good as clubs in a self-defense situation. I liked the smell of the smoke of those old caps. Exactly. I doubt that new gun owners are buying primers, it is simple supply and demand no more so than bullets brass or powder or toilet paper. A brick of 1000 Winchester small rifle primers now costs more than $120. CCI and Federal were both on the shelf and a limit of 1 each. Let them sit there, the prices will fall. Since so many people have lost a chunk, or all of their income, it makes sense that reloading, which saves on the cost of ammo at the expense of time, would become more popular than ever. We had also seen S&B, Unis Ginex and other foreign brands of primers enter the market during the shortages to relieve some of the pressure, but arent seeing that influx of primers this time around. As for the new primer facility, it will be cranking out all sizes of primers for Expansion's ammo and also to supply several small, medium, and large ammo makers within the year. Our founding fathers formed this nation with God, foremost in their minds. Full Member. The orange one. Thank you Powder Valley Inc. for explaining and bringing clarity to the primer shortage. The more I think about that, the better it sounds. Just think about how much better you will feel, relaxing in your front room, a skeen of yarn by your side and your knitting needles clicking away while a beautiful comforter materalizes in front of you from your dilligent efforts. I passed on your in stock primers last week for this reason. Good luck to you and may God Bless you as we celebrate the birth of Jesus. 99. A Closer Look at the Primer Shortage. Elitists from both sides will sit back and watch! https://www.bullseyenorth.com/reloading-primers/browse/page/2. From the Distributors who sell to Retail . After 40 years in LE I retired to do two things I love! If I ration what I have, for example, planning on attending several majors and club matches forces me to eliminate all live fire practice until spring. Even if youre financially stable, reloading and shooting are great socially distant activities you can do while the movie theaters, bowling alleys, and bars are shut down. I will conserve those primers. The use of stockpile does not lend itself to a negative implication. Labor to run it would be a whole lot cheaper. The most important thing you said is PRAY to God for our country and our elected?? Cross bows, long bows and compounds dont need primers, at least they give you something to shoot with. Keep praying for our country, its all we got. What are the manufacturers doing about this? Id like to see more thoughtful approach to allow your regular customers to get in line without hoarding and costing us all a fortune in hazmat. Fortunately, I ordered 2000 primer from Powder Valley before the SHTF. Because we have a level 7 FFL we have options. Leaving us all with expensive boat anchors. Or all over the place like Tula and Fiocchi, I really hated both of those. The places stocking and selling primers albeit at a higher cost from $70 to $100 (more than in the old time) have been Brownells, Midway, and Powder Valley. Wednesday, November 11, 2020. There are old ammo plants all across America, from the war efforts. for those of you that are finding shotgun primers, how much are you paying? The public never had a chance to buy a thing. We are all smart enough to have meaningful discussion without demonizing the political opposition. 22-Dasher Sergeant of the Hide. Gotta get it while its in. Big primer flash equaled faster powder burn which resulted in pressure signs. 99. Someone poked themself with a knitting needle, so Congress banned them to protect us all. There is a quantum leap difference between the two. I wonder what the cost of opening a new manufacturing plant would be and if its even a feasible idea for these companies. We have an extremely large number of new reloaders who have entered the market. Honestly, I dont understand why. Thats WHY!!! If quantity restrictions are to be on orders, it needs to allow big enough order to off set the haz-mat fee. Its an oxymoron. GM150M. Californias firearms laws are not a template that will likely be acceptable in the majority of these United States. When so, they could ship automatically or maybe trigger an automatically generated email notice that would need to be responded to within X amount of time to complete the sale and shipment. However, as every pistol shooter knows, 2000 primers does not last a long time. The Texarkana Gazette wrote about the new employer . I understand there is a lot to it, but this is one of those circumstances, in my opinion, that could be effectively addressed by American Ingenuity. Hope its just a matter of time before supply returns. It can be done. A$20 hazmat fee is not worth it when your competitors have 5k limits. They may have projectiles, brass, and powder on hand but no primers," Felde explained to Pew Pew Tactical in an email in 2020. You sell to your high profit areas first. Biden did say he would put bozo Orork in charge of gun situation and he said hell yea we will outlaw ar & ak47 our country dont fear god and that has become dangerous! I have been stockpiling. Your report has put a lot of the rumors to rest for me . The panic buying always starts when the Democrats are in power or close to getting their hands on power. 12 cents a primer is about what I have seen for online that is in stock as well. We all need to learn from the past so it wont happen in the future. Can we get a hallelujah? Since this current shortage has arrived,, I havent needed to buy any more. CCI Primers, Remington Primers, Winchester Primers, Federal Primers, Cheddite Primers . PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY AND PRAY AGAIN. At a production rate of 4 million per day, a shortage shouldnt last long. This is a grim time to say the least but I am hoping for the best for all of us and that the skudel but is wrong Thank you, guys. If youve tried to purchase ammo or reloading supplies lately, youve probably noticed a lot of products are out of stock. Thank you for this very well thought out article. We all know home land and the other armed forces have put in orders for ammo that will keep all manufacturers tied up for 3 to 4 years in the wake there might be a round 2 of a civil war to speek. Prototype production up front please, as fast as you can. Either way, we will win, as it should be , all they have to do is sell theirs cheaper than the start-up, and they put them out of business . Not holding my breath until I see the outcome / output of the company. Something I can add is, this is my 30th year in law enforcement and we have great concerns about ammo as well. The liberals are smart & patient. You are never too old to have fun! 99. People need to stop buying $33.00 in primers to sell for $700.00. $0.013 - $110.99. Like any other product in a market economy, primers are subject to the whims of supply and demand. Another result of this madness is the lack of availability of rimfire ammunition. Over the last several years, I have purchasing a sleeve (5,000) primers a year, whether I needed them or not. HRC made a statement in 1998 that the 2nd amendment doesnt mention ammo or components. The Remington bankruptcy has had a large impact on the shortage of ammo and primers. November 20, 2021 at 10:38 pm #388407. glennsevert. Still cheaper than $2-300 on Gunbroker per 1000. Ive reduced my shooting and have a stash of ammo. It was nice to read your article on the shortage of reloading supplies. The larger players are now on notice their gravy train is about to pull into the station. Shes saying that there are shortages of yarn like you wouldnt believe. Jul 2, 2021. only take what you need, If you have 20K rounds and 20K primers, I think you are more than good for a war. You literally vote for xxxxxxxxx who promise to take them away or institute bans. Only buy what you need if you want to keep your 2nd Amendment, this is a time we need to band together and spread the wealth. Very excellent advice. Ive talked to Canadian sporting goods companies who have reloading supplies falling off their shelves TODAY, and for great prices. Their customers will literally beat a path to their door, ets hope Olin doesnt try to coerce a duopoly by threatening retaliation. Now, if somebody would do the same for powder. We the people, the voters on either side, are all in the same boat. Ive been reloading for 46 years and Im just not used to seeing such a thing as this happening. Joe toes the party line of gun bans, magazine bans, ect. A Massive Increase in Demand. Thank you very much for your insight and information. I have expanded to casting and sizing bullets for myself, scavenging used brass even in calibers that can be converted. Hopefully theyll be close to either the Winchester or the Federal 209a. I suppose one could make it cheaper but he wouldnt be doing so with variety and precision. I cast all my own bullets and have loads of powder and brassall USELESS- without primers. Now, should you save every one of those 9mm brass casings, the rest of the components - bullets, powder and primers - would still run around $295, which means you'd save only about $65 to do the reloading. I know I did, 25k SPP, and no I dont have any left.all traded off or sold long ago. All these big companies bought up all the little companies so with the few suppliers we have now we fall to the mercy of their mis-management. (stay safe !). With it looking like Biden being president things will So disheartening as I send a press to Dillon for repairs. So the Maple Leaf eating folks in North Montana dont ship to the US. It will also make it near impossible for new shooters in these sports to even get a proper start and may force them to abandon their idea of becoming a practical shooter at all. As demand for primers by ammunition manufacturers shot through the roof, less were available for reloaders. Industry capacity is roughly 4.6 million primers per day. AKA tin horn dictators Bwhaha bwhaha bwhaha, Great explanation of the circumstances. Your endeavors to sell product does not overrule the laws enacted by a democracy using another amendment. Im no longer that desperate. Some reloaders dont think it matters much but Im not in that camp. Greetings Bryan, Raw materials are not being mined/ processed in this country. However, I disagree. Competition breeds success. The pros seem to still have a bottomless supply but the rest of us will have to cut down or eliminate live fire practice. Please lead the industry and create this, complete with email and phone text notices. Its kinda like the old caps we had for our cap gunms, the harder I hit the cap( with a hammer) the louder the crack. I have plenty of powder as well but for the big cartridges but need powder for the small cartridges. The only hangup was that these products were available for export. A couple weeks ago I found small and large pistol primers at Sportsman's Warehouse, Columba, SC, for $43 per brick. Keep checking your trusted online distributor Powder Valley for new arrivals of primers from all four manufacturers. The article is informative. I did not buy any last week, but a month of so ago, they let my wife and I buy 200 each. The warts never came back but I never did that again. I agree so maney new shooters and our fair share of hoarders makes it difacult for a real to keep up. 2. Biden would probably have the ttc turn a blind eye though, wouldnt he? Nice article and well-written but I would just add that when primers hit the desired price point, they will suddenly become available again, just like .22 cal did two years ago. Ah, shoot now I wont be able to find my favorite yarns in stock thanks to the primer shortage! Toilet paper was also in high demand but modern manufacturing made it more availability. 2. We all know that water attracts golf balls and he has contributed greatly to the soon to be felt shortage. It can be done fairly easily. BUT.there is NO shortage of primers in Canada. Why? The best news coming out of this is for Barnes fans. Limiting regular PV primer customers to purchasing a single box of 1,000 that incurs the full hazmat charge only richens the shipping companies and applies a huge penalty to the buyer. This benefits pv and customers because it wont be about how many times a day we check..hoping to get lucky. I appreciate the time Powder Valley took to print this because I was wondering where the Wolf primers were. I can hold out a while. The NSSF estimates that first time gun owners has increased to 6.2 million people over the past few months. I ask, where do they get their primers? Good thing a buddy and I got 1000sands-ez-ez es of the cheap euro primers and the fiochiis were cheap also. Glenmoore, PA. Everyone wants to know in one sentence why there has been a primer shortage over the last 18 months or so. Vista is only interested in selling high profit loaded factory ammo. After that date primers disappeared and prices went up to $80 to $150 or more. This will definitely put a hurting on all the shooting sports, hell pretty much anything with a bullet. Refine by Primer Style: #11 Magnum Percussion Cap 209 In-Line. At least with the hand primer I can watch a TV show and prime. A: While Hodgdon will continue to ship powder as rapidly as possible, we have a significant backlog in demand. Remember the Clinton primer shortage where they wanted primers that degrade over time so people wouldnt want to stockpile ammunition and the shortage of military ammo cans? Its just too messy and complex. Taking full advantage of the times we are in to make 400% profit. Details. Remember the Obama primer shortage? with the zestful glee I think we can anticipate from the new administration coming in I would think they would be trying to sabotage any and all efforts to re-establish this primer supply line I will never forget watching Teddy Kennedy, as he was boarding a jet and was asked by a reporter about the latest Brady Bill defeat saying we have learned that if we can stifle the supplies of ammunition then gun control with become a mute point .. that has echoed in my memory ever since. Nr.1 certainly supports if not mandates a substantial increase in manufacturing capacity. Full Member. A Corner on the Primer Market. I reckoned. I am completely aware of law and the fight that us 2nd Amendment supporters put up every year. only get worse. Why are there plenty of primers available in Canada and at reasonable prices? I believe part of the shortage is artificial. few years ago and still have a good supply. The ultra-popular H4198, H4895, Varget, H4350, and H4831 family of powders are produced by ADI in Australia **. Maybe they should be knocking on or kicking-in your door, first. Thanks for sharing-. They wont flow down the Dillon primer tube. Its time for a new primer manufacturer to step forward. They are fairly short on match grade primers but I bet if you start looking around your area you may be surprised by what you find. Or RCBS ? Bob Northrup. Amazing how a virus with a 99% survival rate has brought our economy to its knees. check your local garage sales and estate sales, you may come across a treasure. In this critical time Im afraid we are going to need them more than ever Respfully. Site Links. Hopefully this is for real and they can produce some quality primers. Most important statement of this article is the last words. I would however object to the use of the word hoarding. Personally and as a nation, Vince, so true. Reactions: KZP. Badger Ordnance near Baraboo, WI has been completely demolished. When Ben Franklin walked out of the constitutional convention, he was asked what kind of government we had. The . Why? We never applied a cowboy law mentality to gun ownership. It's no secret that the demand for firearms and ammunition has reached record levels due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the civil unrest in cities around the United States, and the prospect of an anti-gun president on the horizon. I suggest that if you are short on ammo that you practice with airguns and save the ammo for the days when you will need it. This is so very true. Hornady, maybe? Thank you for the write-up as it was informative. Price: 7.99 | Price Per: $0.0799 | Count: 100 | Retailer: Reloading Unlimited | Desc: CCI Civil War Reenactment Musket Caps (100/50 . Mostly its the 209s for shotshells Im wanting. Hmmm. This is the main issue. Barnes bullets and primers were hit particularly hard in the reloading market. What do you think a realistic time frame might be that primers will become available? Had bought a brick of Win large pistol for $26 before it all started to climb. Thank you for this article, I found it a good read. If legit, they are in it to make money. I dont think anybody saw this coming. For those wondering about the ammo/primer plant by Expansion Industries in Texas.they werent scheduled to start hiring workers for that plant until this year 2023. so its probably going to be a bit before they begin putting ammo and primers into the market from that plant. Demand, however, is just one part of the story. I dont care if they work in a Dillon tube or not just so they work in the cartridges. Seems a bit weird to me. You can locate primers here and there, but normally it's all magum primers for large or small rifle or pistol. They are getting $7.99 per box of 100, with a limit of 2 per customer. Now you pay twice that if you can find one. You could keep the limits in place and allow customers the peace of mind that when primers or other reloading supplies are available, they will be delivered in the order received Just a thought. And yes, I did purchase primers after the last issue and am good to go. As a first time buyer of several week back I must say I am impressed with your company. 426 likes, 3 comments - Sunset Makeup (@sunsetmakeupofficial) on Instagram on April 17, 2023: "Our Sunset Makeup Felt Tip Eyeliners Available now at sunsetmakeup.com ." Sunset Makeup on Instagram: "Our Sunset Makeup Felt Tip Eyeliners Available now at sunsetmakeup.com Our DMs are permanently . And most of all thanks for the reminder to pray. By doing so, a shooter avoids the ups and downs of supply and demand. Fortunately, we buy about 18 months ahead, but if things dont get better in 2021, Im not really sure what we are going to do. Were back !. I understand why you limit a 1000 primers per person when you have the primers in stock. Definately worth getting 5k to make the HazMat and shipping palletable. Direct access to the copper mines for brass, etc, I thought Texas was Mexico? The standard No4 firing pin was hitting the primers over a large area and causing them to flash like Magnum primers. Available funds never allowed me to stock up so I didnt. The fix was to slim down the tip of the firing pin and install a bushing into the bolt face to accommodate the smaller firing pin. Main reason, I believe, is that everyone is buying them, when they find them, to plan ahead for the next four years with Biden and the Hindu/Jamacian taking helm in Wash DC. 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