Employment protections include being fired, denied employment, or otherwise discriminated against by an employer. Because I was working on it, and other people in the physics department began to notice. His name was Jim Fergason. CRAWFORD: We talked yesterday about some of the difficulties around Fergason's patenting ventures, and you had said that throughout the 70s, you were doing primarily basic research and weren't really working on applications. I thought I was too old to be a good researcher anymore. Evidently, he could not get Glenn Brown to participate either.CRAWFORD: It sounds like, on the one hand, Fergason files these patents claiming he did the work separate from the university, but now Timex is coming back with this lawsuit against Kent State. Its been over 25 years since I retired from the university and a lot has happened since then.] It has a writing texture similar to paper. You can do lots of things with that [experimental technique]. That was my focus at that time. I'm not sure what expertise he'd gained at his former employment, but he was a good one to guide a company that had to learn to do almost everything from manufacturing to sales. Where do you think that comes from for you?DOANE: I don't know. Were there other companies the LCI was developing relationships with at this time?DOANE: [Those were among the first ones but I think by then, 3M and Polytronix were working with us in some way. I had a lot of trouble doing it because chemistry viewed it as an encroachment. I dont know what he called his company, but I think he made good business out of that. We drove back to Columbia, Missouri for graduate school.CRAWFORD: Why was it you wanted to work with Professor Duller?DOANE: He had one experiment in mind that I thought was really, really neat. They were on glass substrates as opposed to plastic. It was a different approach for a university to deal with. This chemical physics program was still on the books, but nobody was using it anymore. It was called JTech. This turned out to be a big problem, actually.CRAWFORD: Id be happy to hear. DOANE: I don't know how you define a pioneer, but I would say that my primary contributions, while I've published a lot and written a lot of patents, was more in working with others, getting others involved, building a program for Kent State University. I was born in the sandhills of Western Nebraska, out in the country in a sod house, built by my father. 6 hours from St. Louis, MO. As it turns out, there are a number different ways you can make a display with a liquid crystal. The property is located just off the I-75, walking distance to KSU football field, Towncenter Mall, many restaurants and new development in the area. They had this program, but they needed a proposal in just a few weeks. CRAWFORD: And this was in the early 2000s?DOANE: Yes. These students went into industry in places like Microsoft, Apple, Google etc. Anyway, it quickly became realized that in order to make a really good flat-panel display, one that would work at video-rate speeds, you had to have a little transistor circuit at each one of those pixel sites. Before, I was just working as a physics faculty member. Located at Interstate 225 at Alameda Avenue, the Town Center at . The attitude in industry for commercializing the technology ultimately was just not there. Learn why in our, 442-H New York Standard Operating Procedures. [Laugh] [I am sure, however, there are some examples where it has paid off. I wonder if you have any additional observations or insights that you'd like to share. Over the years, I've directed something like 25 doctoral dissertations, and I don't know how many master's students. University of Oklahoma at Stillwater, various places. I thought it was sort of like a double resonance. Peachtree Rides (Mall Train) Locate simply the city of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin through the card, map and satellite image of the city. I didn't know much about writing patents. The Timex contract was with the University. Like Peter Palffy and John West, he originally came into the liquid crystal institute under the title senior research fellow, with no professorship as did Adriaan De Vries and several others. If you're going to have a graduate program, you have to have faculty who can bring in money, at least in sciences. Its behind Papa Johns Pizza.CRAWFORD: On Lincoln Street?DOANE: Yeah. I thought liquid crystals were really a great thing to focus on. When you grow up as a graduate student in a physics department, at least back then, you begin to see how research is funded. What was it about their work or them as individuals that attracted you to Kent?DOANE: They were dealing with a nuclear property that comes up in the jargon of nuclear magnetic resonance, spin-lattice relaxation. DOANE: Yes, except that back then, it was even more difficult because I think this was prior to the time of the Bayh-Dole Act that gave universities more freedom in the patent business.CRAWFORD: Yes, 1980. The twist cell turned out to be the best approach but had its own drawbacks. DOANE: Campus is a great place to walk and ride bikes, but I don't like to go there when it is shut down because it's so depressing to me.CRAWFORD: And that's a really good example of what you were saying about how the pandemic has impacted social interactions. Many properties of these cosmic rays were unknown at the time. When I got to high school, my father sold all that property in Nebraska and moved to Southern Missouri. [At Kent, we were the liquid crystal optics component of the center; however, there were other optical materials such as light emitting diodes at USC.] Xerox was studying its electro-optical properties. A BHHS Georgia Properties agent will be in touch with you to schedule a showing or provide you with building information. We decided I should go, so I went. CRAWFORD: It sounds like your basic research at the molecular level was around understanding the structure and fluctuations of liquid crystals.DOANE: [In my own research group we studied how the molecules ordered, moved, wiggled, diffused, and how these features changed from one liquid crystal phase to another. It was really a difficult process. He did that, and he said, "How do I seal this liquid crystal between these two pieces of glass?" That was a discovery that turned out to be not only of scientific interest but also ended up in many applications. This comes from a letter he wrote to an Associate Provost Bernard Hall at Kent State in September 1969. Back then, I had a little problem with the State of Ohio. CRAWFORD: By secrets, youre talking about intellectual property?DOANE: [Yeah, primarily intellectual property but also research results. That's what I did for my personal research however it was a small part of the overall program. There was enough space between there that we could sandwich a small building and put together a number of research labs.CRAWFORD: I've heard about this building, and I can appreciate the practicality of being between physics and chemistry, but also the metaphorical meaning of it of liquid crystals as kind of a substance in the space between physics and chemistry. Dr. Doane, thanks for agreeing to speak to me again.J. I can get into that later. Find all the information of Les Avenires Veyrins-Thuellin or click on the section of your choice in the left menu. Galileo did marvelous science, of course, but he had to support himself and his scientific work as well, and he did it by making things. "DOANE: He's right.CRAWFORD: That captures the spirit of the Institute at the time?DOANE: Oh, yeah. My father was a farmer, however my mother was from the East and very well-educated. She'd recall these numbers easily as she was a superb manager.CRAWFORD: What did this mean in terms of the research agenda, either for your group or the Institute as a whole? I know you established the company in 1993, and you talked a little bit about how you came in contact with Bill Manning and started working with him. That was something he really wanted to focus on. I think John West could tell you more about that. But continuing that attitude didn't work when the materials began to be developed and their use became recognized. What often cannot be not useful is valuing one specific area of research over another. But as soon as I retired, I joined the company as CTO for a while. The company today develops all sorts of stuff to get it closer and closer to paper yet make it interactive with digital electronics. We were able to get grants to help us with this. Further electrical engineers at Akron or Case did not have that expertise or interest. But I didn't really do too much because it's primarily coursework. I knew I needed somebody in optics. You described the Society for Information Displays as an industry group when you first met with them. Not only displays, we had work going on with steering laser beams, night vision, and other optical devices. Another senator saw this and said, "That shouldn't be. It was really nice. I never wanted to run the company because I didn't think I had the right expertise. For example, there was Bell Labs doing a lot of feasibility work of combining basic research with applied and developing such things as the transistor. The viewing angle was a big issue on displays. I had no problem with patents. I appreciate you doing this. How do they function on a molecular level?" I think he was able to keep everybody here and keep the place running. [Laugh] But as a retiree, I've been one of the least affected. As I said, I was raised pretty much as a loner. Everybody was from industry. [Laugh] There are all sorts of enticements. DOANE: I really had some wonderful students. Between the time I interviewed and when I came here, Glenn had already started putting together the Liquid Crystal Institute. They awarded 12, but we weren't awarded one in the first group. I thought it should be patented. Shortly after that, we had a project with a company outside the beltway in Washington DC that had a defense contract to develop some very secret thing. Black Friday shoppers at Town Center mall. He worked with Robinson Memorial Hospital. [Laugh] [Polymer dispersed liquid crystals (PDLCs) became known in industry as well, worldwide.] Roland was interested in using nuclear magnetic resonance to study molecular diffusion. Obviously, the science is important. It could make a nice flat screen display but was a big drain on the battery. It was manufacturable, you could coat it and do various things you could not do with liquid crystals alone. He asked me if I could solder and things like that, and I said, "Yeah, I can do that." USC applied, I applied, and so did these other universities.] CRAWFORD: I could see advantages of it being a little bit outside of the university structure, but is this maybe a cautionary tale, that the flip side of having that freedom is that it can be taken advantage of?DOANE: I can see that point of view, absolutely. I know we've covered quite a bit of ground.DOANE: I have to say, I'm really impressed how prepared you were for this and how much you knew before you even set foot through this door. 2 hours from Wichita. I think some people in the physics department, even Jim McGrath, thought liquid crystals were just unusual liquids unrelated to solid crystals where material research was largely conducted in those days.CRAWFORD: Because it didn't seem to pose any type of fundamental question?DOANE: [It wasnt viewed as relevant to solid state even though it turned out that liquid crystals have some of the same crystalline and other properties of solid state and actually contribute to the understanding of solid materials. This open floor plan and dual decks-front and back offer room for entertaining and family fun. Before noon on the day it was launched, Amazon was calling up and wanting more. Well, that was marvelous. I wanted to see the city of Kent benefit from this, employment, and so on. The physics behind it isnt so simple, but it's a simple device and useful device as a paper replacement that can be reused. CRAWFORD: Who was that?DOANE: His name was Albert Green. I stopped and looked at it. It was a nice program. I just told the dean I didn't know what I could do. ]CRAWFORD: I would imagine as a company, it's beneficial to have students, both undergraduates and graduates, who can come here and work that you know have experience in physics.DOANE: Particularly experience in liquid crystals. What makes it useful for a tablet is you can write on it with your fingernail or a pointed object or stylus. It's a lot more than just doing science. http://omeka.library.kent.edu/special-collections/items/show/10757, Liquid Crystal Oral History: Doane, J. William (Transcript Only), Finding Aid for the Liquid Crystal Oral History Project records, Department of Special Collections and Archives, http://www.library.kent.edu/special-collections-and-archives/duplication-policy, http://rightsstatements.org/vocab/InC/1.0/, This digital object is owned by Kent State University and may be protected by U.S. But he came in very early, after John West.] They didn't want to do it. I saw only a few closed stores on. But they did not, just a small amount of royalties. The dean for research then was a professor named Eugene Wenninger. There are alignment layers, retardation films, liquid crystal materials where significant contributions are made. The name of the company who manufactures this now and markets it is Ebulent [and its CEO is Xiao-Yang Huang]. I don't know where I get that from. I thought it was good for Kent State, too. Patents aren't as convenient of a thing as you'd like to think they might be. CRAWFORD: I'm thinking of somebody like the current CEO, Asad Khan, who did his dissertation at the LCI while he was working full-time at Kent Displays.DOANE: We've had a lot of students here from Kent State in addition to Asad as well as students from other local universities. [Laugh] That was a huge effort, the first time I ever worked with other universities, and I learned the issues with that. Fundamentally, it's very simple. I thought it was a way to help graduate research.CRAWFORD: When you said you wanted to tie the faculty together, it's really thinking in terms of building the University, building the graduate program. It has played a big role [scientifically and technologically]. Cutting edge amenities, meticulously-groomed grounds, and a dedicated staff contributes to a higher standard of living. On the bad side, it shut down a lot of the interpersonal activity it takes to get things done. I had a friend at MIT who told me that was what they liked to do at MIT, get faculty, post-docs, and students to be entrepreneurs to spin off the technology. Another problem at that time, which isn't an issue anymore, was having the right kind of liquid crystal material to use it with. CRAWFORD: Did Kent Displays get funding from ALCOM?DOANE: No. They wanted a program that involved multiple universities, not just one. It's just kind of in my nature. Generally universities want to publish their research results. Somehow, I just thought it was important for our program to do that. These don't have to be refreshed. The primary reason I did was Jim McGrath and Tony Silvidi. CRAWFORD: But students still get their PhD in chemical physics?DOANE: As I understand it, they do [but it may now be broadened to material sciences. Bill got the company going, but the defense contracts helped it to grow to further develop the technology. [I believe it was University money I brought him on with. The next day, we came back in, and the clear liquid mess had turned to a beautiful white solid. Were you working on these kinds of questions about how to improve displays?DOANE: Oh, yes. It's a very low-powered device.DOANE: The Boogie Board takes no power to write on it. When we discovered how to do that we realized we could make a nice electronically addressed display out of it. [Laugh]CRAWFORD: Why do you think that is?DOANE: It just happens. Then, we had to decide what to do with this program. Enter a site search term and use the ENTER KEY to submit your search At that point, I went to the University of Akron, where they had a polymer program, and I found a group over there headed by Frank Harris that really wanted to do this. It required polarizers. It was very helpful in addition to Bill Manning's money. We wouldn't have cell phones with displays, flat TV screens, interactive wrist watches etc. Universities transfer their research results to industry where products are developed and manufactured. Because part of the issue is that you're getting federal funding, so the research is supposed to be a public good, so how could you make it private? This is our third session. It was a beautiful country. [These days universities are now very involved in that kind of research, further exploring its feasibility for certain applications. I took my display there, and they let me give a talk on it. As a graduate student, when I got into nuclear magnetic resonance, I had a research assistantship while I was working on my PhD, and that was funded with a grant. CRAWFORD: What was it that allowed you to switch between the two states?DOANE: It has to do with how you switch it. But in the end, I don't know how the military gets their displays today. The liquid crystals just weren't very good with that at that time. Faculty and research fellows in the Kent group were finding it more difficult to find support. Their backlighting technology was becoming cheaper and cheaper as was battery technology, and it was becoming harder to compete. In talking to my friend at MIT, he was saying their experienceand he had a lot more experience than I did, was that MIT had trouble making money on licensing. But without that, I dont know what wouldve happened to the Institute. They didn't want to make displays, but they wanted to license it worldwide. ________________[1] Dr. Doane wants to be clear that Goodyear's interest in liquid crystal displays for their blimp was separate from his receipt of the award from the Society for Information Displays. Another contribution was creating new products. Win over prospective landlords with your smart budgeting. And we won it, we got it. DOANE: Yeah. Location! Glenn was opposed to that but he did not stop me from pursuing the issue . Jim had a contract with the Gruen Watch Company to make these things. But we really made a nice presentation. DOANE: Building the research graduate programs, yes. I didn't know it at the time, but I think the biggest discovery for me was the polymer dispersion. I even made a display out of them. CRAWFORD: Were there any demonstrations that stood out or led to anything significant?DOANE: Actually, there were quite a number. We started a project studying these materials with electric field pulses. There was stuff going on like that.CRAWFORD: Was this Hughes Laboratory?DOANE: No, it was not Hughes. And it was nice working with the folks at Case and Akron, too. It's unclear how the company plans to revitalize the mall or if . I like theory, but I like to get my hands dirty. [Laugh] We put this together, and we got up to the point where NSF said they wanted to make a site visit. I thought about it for a short while and agreed. We had all the patents on this, so I flew down to Texas to talk to this company and tell them, "Look, we have the patents on this, and we're going to protect them. I was able to convince the dean of arts and science to support a building that went between chemistry and physics. The University got a little bit of royalty stream from it, a tiny amount. People in California are able to start a company a lot more easily. Copyright law (Title 17, USC). We had a big handicap here at Kent State because there was no electrical engineering department at Kent at that time. That was really what the objective of ALCOM was, to make a connection between basic research and the economy. Or is it actually an exchange?DOANE: [It's more of a transfer than an exchange. That's another big story. Today, I'm interviewing Dr. J. William Doane, Emeritus Professor of Physics, Emeritus Director of the Liquid Crystal Institute at Kent State University, as well as Co-Founder and Senior Advisor at Kent Displays. NOTE TO USERS: Sharp Copy Transcription, an independent transcription service, produced the original version of this transcript from the digital audio files of this oral history interview. At that time, I wasn't interested in doing applications or patenting. Did you and Fergason remain friends?DOANE: Yes, I didn't have any problem with Jim. [Laugh] I happened to wander by this one room, and I looked in there, and it was just full of electronics. That turned out to be a wise, wise decision because the job opportunities in that field are far higher. The liquid crystal display technology during that period began to take off. Even then, when I wrote the patent, I knew nothing about licensing. It has a separate dinning room and living room and an partially finished basement with laundry hookups. I visited many potential investors, the contacts that I set up were on my own.] Liquid Crystal Oral History ProjectDepartment of HistoryKent State University, Transcript produced by Sharp Copy Transcription. It was difficult, but I finally got it through. Well, it did in the sense that it influenced what I was doing and had an effect on it through this property of spin-lattice relaxation in the surrounding crystalline lattice. Around that time, I got someone from Canada, Peter Palffy, in optics. I didn't know of anybody else at Kent who had done this sort of thing, spinning off technology from the University. These agreements are now well over 30 years ago and probably now terminated and some could be made public. I talked to the physics department to see if I could get an appointment for him in physics, but they didnt want to do it. An agreement can be kind of complicated [and confidential].CRAWFORD: But it sounds like part of it is a sharing of ideas.DOANE: It's a sharing of ideas, yes. CRAWFORD: I was going to ask if that new building made it harder to encourage interactions.DOANE: [No, in fact the opposite since by the time of ALCOM there are now other departments involved such as Mathematics, Biology, and, now more recently Engineering. I'm an Associate Professor and Historian of Science in the Department of History at Kent State University. After I finished my two years in the Army, I wanted to go back to Missouri because I wanted to work with this professor named Nelson Duller.CRAWFORD: Was that the professor who hired you?DOANE: Yes, that was the professor who hired me. Right away, we were beginning to make signs out of the cholesteric liquid crystal technology. I had such good support from industry and Kent State administration. Location! Basically, it was a job interview. I just wanted to ask if you could say a bit more. Today is August 9th, 2021. It had to be a pretty big sign. It did play a huge role. CRAWFORD: Why do you say that?DOANE: Because usually, that's where the opportunity is. Actually you could use and switch any color. It's just the challenge of doing that, it's not necessarily thinking, "I'm going to be able to sell watches. At that time, the liquid crystals were unstable and would decompose over time. Absolutely. Also, as a blackboard or white board replacement, it is not messy; that is, you dont need chalk or ink. I thought it probably was the best thing to do because I didn't see anything going anywhere. Then, liquid crystals came up again. 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