The freedom loving nations :/ I dont see any real freedom anywhere. Maybe someones mind could be enlightened if they opened it instead of walking away. Meanwhile, this persona made her screen debut in a short film named Boys Don't Cry in 1995, as Lana Tisdel. Life without parole is done with, while enabling opportunity to reverse a terrible wrong, regardless of the morality of the death penalty. Nothing I stated agrees with Lotter and Nissen (are you privy to their mindset, motivation, opinion, and argument as if they had a brain cell between them?) Rest in peace, Brandon, Lisa, and Philip. You can watch the documentary about the case on YouTube. The killers, who reportedly had a total of $5 between them at the time of their arrests, would have to pay the balance, the court decided. LANA by LANA, released 20 March 2020 1. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. Lotter told Teena that he liked her and hoped to be with her, after she was released from jail and everyone found out that she was female. He offered some sort of an apology that is written in a totally contrived language. But the PC brigade decide that its THIS reason then starts sounding-off. Several things point to this. Its too possible to apply it unequally and therefore unfairly assuming it COULD be justified. r: I need do nothing of the sort thankfully cos I live in a democracy which allows (just!) Rather than rant, Ill simply state that Im perfectly content to use whatever pronoun a person would prefer, as the likely kind thing to do; and Brandon would seemingly have wished to be known as he. Its shameful, in my view, to spend such a huge amount of money to keep people imprisoned more expensively only for the purpose of killing them, when there are people living in poverty on the streets Even if it only cost twice as much as for lifers, that would be a good reason on the abolishment side. Not just that, he based his writing on certain assumptions, did not follow through with research and fact checking, missing certain key events revealed in court testimony and police reports. No, Teena Brandon was a woman. Teena Brandon both, had flaws, and was severely emotionally traumatized, that everyone wrongly chucked to child sexual abuse, she needed a lot of love, that the girls she chased after were not a able to give her. Let grown adults be free to do as they see fit within the constrains of mutual consent, but for the love of all that is firm enough to be solid ground dont make an untrue true because someone feels like it; already confused identities wont get any benefit from even more distortion of what actually is, and many trans people are quite happy as just that once its obvious its not a flash in the pan or knee jerk reaction to trauma, and no balanced soul should have to much to do with what is not any their business if no one is unhappy about the arrangement unless someone actually is or has been asked. Tisdel was taken to Stormont Vail Hospital in Topeka, Kansas with serious injuries.[11][12]. Lotter, you claim to be innocent? Also, the only person who seems to have gotten through to Teena Brandon emotionally was Michelle Lotter, as a stronger gay woman, who had the position in the wolf pack that Teena wished she had. After that murder, American jailers were no longer allowed to lock up under age prisoners with grown ups. You may say what does this have to do with Brandon Teena, but isnt that name just another reversal of the truth her being born as Tina Brandon and isnt the entire world backwards by design, and by a minute fraction of the population enslaving us all? I never heard Christ go around pointing fingers at people, did any of you? This could have been easily fixed with steroid injections you can get on the street. So, all hate crime is crime, but not all crime is a hate crime. WAY, WAY , WAY BEYOND REHABILITATION!! Teena Brandon liked Sprite soda and the old Whatchmacallit candy bars, the old ones came with real peanuts, cookie crisp and liquidy gooey caramel. Had Teena Brandon been getting quality psychiatric care, they would have addressed her sex abuse trauma, her eating disorder, her OCD, her alcohol abuse, and only then suggest sex reassignment etc. His loved ones and a lot of idiots, LGBT types included, are trying to get him off the death row. Regardless of who pulled the trigger, Lotter helped plan the murders, which makes him legally accountable just the same. ON MORE THAN SEVERAL It was a terrible crime, and while I oppose the death penalty one does encounter perps on FF who would and should be ahead in the queue for the chair (and if we have capital punishment it shouldt be the half-hearted quasi-medical procedure of injection, disgracefully administered by healthcare staff trained to save life) if we have to have it (I see we Im a Brit; the DP was abolished here in the 60s, but I know something of dangerous criminals having worked in a prison). Stop calling him a she or a her. According to Jones book Lana Tisdel is sitting in the car, when Teena walks up to her. Not in the social register. A middle aged middle class man joined them and drank their beer and whiskey and ate the grilled steak with them. When taken in this context, Sheriff Lauxs infamous interview of Teena is not as preposterous as it seems, though it does not absolve Laux, since he behave horribly towards Teena and towards her sister after she came in to take Teenas things after she was murdered. She needed men as an audience for which she would get in bed with any girl, either to show off for her male pack of to get their approval, a feminine trait, but not reserved for women only. Also, certain things she was closer with Nissen that she was with Tisdel. Log in or sign up for Facebook to connect with friends, family and people you know. I think its possible to deserve the death penalty without it being right to administer it but this is a debate for another time. I agree with Jude. Thanks. The concept of hate crime makes no sense whatsoever its just crime; and to suggest that some crimes are worse because of the (usually supposed) motive is as unintelligent as it is offensive to those suffering grief in consequence of supposed lesser murders. I WAS TOLD, They are monsters!!!! [7], Tanner Lambert graduated from Humboldt High School in 2011, and was raised by his aunt. I guess for now ill settle for bookmarking and adding your RSS feed to my Google account. WHERE ARE THEIR SECOND CHANCES AT LIFE??? In addition, according to a State Police report, Teenas sister was trying to get her into a program that helps survivors of rape and domestic violence, and intake staff told her that Tom Nissen had raped other local girls and that the Shriffs Office had failed to prosecute Nissen and that at least two were in their program, so the program staff were aware of Nissen. Including Lana, Linda Gutierres left four children behind. me to determine this issue for myself rather than having the correct view imposed on me by the likes of the pc brigade. He was dead when the Morning Shift came to the overnight cell to do the roll call. Fourth Case A well to do IT professional who rode Harley on weekends decided to join a biker gang, well, a suburban Harley riders club, no real felons among them. Teena Brandon was a girl, she was not saving money for sex reassignment surgery, she had none. Lambert's son Tanner was in the house at the time and was unharmed. But Lotter and Nissan dont have a whole lot at stake in that regard. They then drove to the house of Lisa Lambert, where Brandon had been hiding out. (Boys Dont Cry and The Brandon Teena Story). Elle tombe amoureuse de Lana, la petite amie de John. Lana M. Tisdel (born May 28, 1975) [2] is an American woman whose early life and involvement with the December 1993 murders of Brandon Teena, Lisa Lambert and Phillip DeVine, at the hands of John Lotter and Tom Nissen, is chronicled in the 1998 documentary The Brandon Teena Story and the 1999 film Boys Don't Cry (which left out DeVine). One of the symptoms of mental illness is behavioral inadequacy in social situations. I oppose the death penalty but if these two DO know right from wrong they surely are indeed fitting candidates, I spose this was, or would now, be termed a hate-crime: a category I think is nonsense. and its from within the power structure (ie: the 2 boys in Arkansas murdered then put on the train tracks. Im sorry, but where is there evidence of this? I would give identity politics more credence had Teena not been a psychiatric patient with severe symptoms other than gender dysphoria. A year before Boys Dont Cry, Tisdel herself had appeared in the documentary The Brandon Teena Story, and she seemed like a sympathetic character there, too. (Thanks to reader Charlene for writing in with the update.). I may wish my old nag were a racehorse, and call him a racehorse, but calling him one no more makes him one than does calling a biological female a male or darkness light. Apparently there is Teenas prison letter to Lana, where Teena is morosely doing time, pacing the cell and doing push ups and chin ups. Titre original: Boys Don't Cry Popularit: 11.214 I She called herself Tenna Ray Brandon. If you think that life of crime, addiction and mental illness is living authentically to masculine gender identity, I pity you. Teena's new group of friends in the area included 17-year-old Lana Tisdel, her older sister Leslie, Lana's ex-boyfriend (and former convict) John Lotter, and his pal Marvin Nissen. I dont know the answer because I havent checked articles etc. Tisdel has disputed claims that after the truth was revealed to her, they continued a romantic relationship, but instead she told Brandon that they could still be friends. My impression was that this was about a girl posing as a boy as an experiment..! Being slow, stupid or whatever is in principle different from moral indifference. Laux tells her that he knows Nissen, and that if Nissen pulled her pants off, he would have groped her. Brandons mother, JoAnn, won $80,000 in a civil suit against the county for failing to arrest Lotter and Nissen immediately after the rape charges were filed. This article gets some things wrong, but it is great for background information. In 2007, Nissen made a surprise announcement that he, and not Lotter, actually fired the bullets that killed Brandon Teena, Phillip Devine, and Lisa Lambert.Lotter demanded a new trial on that basis, but he never got one. They beat up and raped Brandon one night in December 1993. You point to another problem: the vested interest in poor performance in IQ testing post-conviction. Thats what Lotter and Nissen believed as well. Initially friendly, Lotter and Nissen soon began to harass Teena and Tisdel and scrutinize their relationship. Lana herself suffered injuries requiring hospitalization, but she has since recovered. Tough love. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. That these women (usually) would themselves likely be victims of the person if free eludes them. I would love to know someone relative or friend of Brandon teena to have a vision of him as a person, what he liked, his dreams .. but I cant contact anyone even after 25 years it seems a taboo topic. The director of the film, Kimberly Pierce, worked on the script for many . WORK FORCE! But a court later reduced Richardson Countys liability. Ive seen john lotters interviews and there is no way he doesnt know right from wrong. 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